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The Russians talk about «Doomsday Scenario» - suddenly require cooperation by the U.S.?
14-03-2010 21:17:41 14-03-2010 21:17:41
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A possible imminent risk of a global disaster (Doomsday Scenario), stated bluntly in a report prepared by Dr. Anatoly Perminov director of Russian Federal Service of Interval (ROSCOSMOS) - the NASA of Russia - to the Prime Minister of country [Blantimir] [Poytin]. Anatoly Perminov Director of Russian Federal Space Agency (ROSCOSMOS) - The NASA Russia - to the prime minister Vladimir Putin. Basic object of report unexpected and without warning, suspension of sanctions of American government to the Russian spatial organism, but also to the University of Saint Petersburg (Voenmech Baltic State Technical University). The main issue of reporting the sudden and without warning, suspension of the sanctions the U.S government to the Russian space agency, and to the University of St. Petersburg (Voenmech Baltic State Technical University). In the report, inter alia, it is reported that this energy of American women “It is very likely to constitute clue of likely confirmation of their own script of type of world destruction (Doomsday Scenario)” In its petition, inter alia, stated that the action of Americans "? are very likely to indicate a possible confirmation of their own type of global disaster scenario (Doomsday Scenario)” With simple reasons the Dr. Put simply, Dr. Does Anatoly Perminov say that the USA do consider that does exist increased probability does knock the Ground a asteroid something that will mean the end of human existence in the planet, as we know him today also [kat]'? [ayto] [ton] way they tend hand of friendship in Russia in order to they develop joint system of confrontation of such dangers. Anatoly Perminov said that the U.S believe that there is increased chance to beat the earth asteroid which would mean the end of human existence on earth as we know it today, thereby tending a hand of friendship to Russia to jointly develop system addressing such risks. In this same report of Dr. The same reference Dr. [A].Perminov is reported of course that “the probability of big blow in the Ground, from body of meteorite is increased”. A. Perminov stated clearly that "? The probability of a Big Bang on Earth by meteorite body is increased. This affair, comes it is strengthened by the fact of conjecture of existence of big body in distance 25 until 50 kms of AU of (stellar units) from the Ground, and if this is valid finally, then the presence it can it causes detachment of comets from the area of Oort or the area of Kuiper with result the danger for our planet is increased. This case comes to reinforce the fact the probability of having a large body at 25 to 50 thousand AU (stellar units) from Earth, and if this is true in the end, then this may be caused by the posting of comets area Oort or Kuiper belt as a result of the risk to our planet to be increased. Worrying is that the activity in our solar system, regarding the comets she is very increased: The concern is that the activity in our solar system, in terms of comets are very high: Yesterday 12 March a comet fell on t o n Helium. Yesterday March 12 fell on a comet to the Sun. If it had fallen in the Ground it would be our end… If it had fallen to Earth would be the end us… In any case the Dr. However Dr. Anatoly Perminov [prochora] and more: Titled “Who are? ” it is pointed out that Russia should “urgently accelerate” her drawing for defence against asteroids which “it is likely” they aim (!) the ground, but also from “unknown identity flying objects” which were found in the orbit of Helium ago weeks, as it had written defencenet. gr. Anatoly Perminov and goes further: Under the title "? Who? "? Noted that Russia should "? urgently expedite"? its plan for defense against asteroids which are "? likely"? to target (!) Earth, but also "? an unidentified flying objects "? found in the orbit of the sun some weeks ago as he had written the defencenet. gr. From the Russian does not become acceptable the American place that it was error of his computational telescope and it does not exclude exists something more. Since the Russians have not accepted the U.S position that it was wrong software and the telescope does not exclude a more. Regarding With regard to sanctions that had been imposed first time on 13 May 1992, against Glavkosmos after the signature of agreement of 400 millions $ with India for sale [pyraylokinitiron] and were in the frame of prohibition of escape of missile technology in third countries, their suspension has force from 10 March. sanctions were first imposed on 13 May 1992, against Glavkosmos after the signing of a $ 400 million to India for sale rocket and was under the ban leakage missile technology to other countries, the suspension has effect from 10 March. In any case it should we mark also something else: Often such services as the NASA or the ROSKOSMOS, that is considered "? second [tachytitas]"? regarding their financing by the [kratko] budget, specifically [en] via economic crisis, [megalopoioyn] wanted situations, so that they extract bigger financing… It should be noted something else: Often such services such as NASA or ROSKOSMOS, which are considered "? second rate"? in terms of their financing from the budget kratko, particularly amid the economic crisis, deliberately exaggerate situations in order to obtain more funding… Department of news defencenent.gr Department news defencenent.gr
An invisible star, which is in orbit around the Sun may be the reason why at times fall meteorites on Earth, one of which was the cause for the extinction of the dinosaurs. The “star” substantially a coffee or grey dwarf with size his five times bigger than Via, can cause mass falls of meteorites each 26 millions [chronia]. The "? star"? actually a coffee or brown dwarf with a size five times larger than Zeus, can cause massive meteorite falls every 26 million years. [Nemesis] as it calls the NASA the body this, practically is not neither planet, but also not neither aster. The Nemesis as NASA calls the body, it is neither practical world nor nor star. It constitutes at some way of a failed aster. It is somehow a failed star. Because his very small mass, the temperature and the pressure in his core are not enough high so that they begin or they maintain the thermonuclear reactions. Because of the very small mass, temperature and pressure in the core is not high enough to start or maintain their thermonuclear reactions. Contrary to the planets, it radiates very very little via his own heat and for this reason it is so much with difficulty [entopisimos]. Unlike the planets, radiating slightly through its own heat and that is why it is so difficult entopisimos. According to the scientists as the “aster” he is found in orbit drifts with his gravity frozen bodies that are found in cloud of Oort and afterwards it blows to the solar system. According to scientists as the "? star"? he is on track to drag the weight of icy bodies located in the Oort cloud and then launching in the solar system. The cloud of Oort is region of exterior solar system. The Oort cloud is around the outer solar system. It is constituted by frozen cores of comets and is found in distance from 50.000 - 100.000 astronomical units (the distance of Ground from [Iilio]) by the Sun, thousand times more far from [Ploytona] or roughly in the one year of light. It consists of ice cores and comets at a distance from 50,000 to 100,000 astronomical units (the distance of Earth from Iilio) from the sun, a thousand times farther than Pluto or roughly one light year. This comets while [apospoyntai] from cloud of Oort afterwards be believed that they were persons in charge son the obliteration of dinosaurs 65 millions before. Comets are well separated from the Oort cloud and then is believed to be responsible son eliminating the dinosaurs 65 million ago. Now the experts of NASA believe that they can discover [Nemesis] via the new infra red telescope WISE (Wide-Field Infrared Survey Explorer), which [ektoxeytike] on 14 December 2009 and from January has begun and supplied with elements the scientists. Now NASA'? s experts believe they can discover the Nemesis through the new infrared telescope WISE (Wide-Field Infrared Survey Explorer), which was launched on 14 December 2009 and January has begun and input to the scientists. It is believed that WISE might discover at least 1000 grey dwarfs in distance up to 25 years of light while it at the same time reveals also comets that [periferontai] in the solar system and were difficult they are recognized before, as the 2010 AB78, that was discovered on 12 January and it is found in elliptic orbit round helium and in distance of 158 millions of km from the Ground. It is believed that the WISE will be able to find at least 1000 brown dwarf at a distance of up to 25 years while light reveals wandering comets in the solar system and it was difficult to recognize before, as the 2010 AB78, which was discovered on January 12 and is elliptical orbit around the sun at a distance of 158 million km from Earth. In any case first elements for the existence of [Nemesis] - that even if his existence is speculated for a lot of years was the discovery of small planet of Sedna in 2003, the elliptic orbit of that round the sun, each 12.000 years, could explains only that with the presence other of enormous planet or star. However the first evidence for the existence of Nemesis-which, although its existence is likely for many years-was the discovery of a small planet Sedna in 2003, whose elliptical orbit around the sun every 12,000 years, could not explained only by the presence of a planet or other massive star. The astronomer Mike Brown which discovered sedan said: “Sedna is a very curious object, would be supposed it is found there. The astronomer Mike Brown, who discovered the sedan said: "? Sedna is a very strange object, it should be there.
The only explanation for such a small planet to have such an orbit is the existence of another giant body out there '. Many are in any case those that connect [Nemesis] with planet X or differently Nibiru, while certain other want planet H it is turned round [Nemesis] even if the enormous distance of [Nemesis] if it is finally revealed, the order the 25 with 50 thousands of astronomical units, is not consistent with the orbit of 3.600 years that want the partisans of theory of Nibirou. In any case the NASA for first time speaks that is found near the discovery of [Nemesis] with the WISE and naturally the launch of particular telescope in the interval cannot be characterized accidental. Many however are linking the Nemesis with the planet X or otherwise Nibiru, while others want the world to revolve around X by Nemesis although the vast distance of Nemesis if finally revealed, the order-25 50 thousands astronomical units not consistent with the orbit of 3600 years that they want the fans of the doctrine of Nibirou. But by NASA for the first time that talks are close to finding the Nemesis with WISE and of course the firing of the telescope in space can be described at random. Department of news defencenent.gr Department news defencenent.gr
Whistleblower that works with NASA...
Alert This Confirms Many Fears....
This sensitive material dated 3/15/2010 at 4:30PM ET USA.
Background....I found this to be credible and I want to share ASAP.
What follows is an extract from a busy forum where someone identified himself as
a "contractor" for NASA. He has decided to warn people and created a format
to share what he knows of the anomalies in the SUN right now and what "he" and his family are about to do to protect themselves.
They live somewhere near Houston TX, USA.
Please do not judge ME from "his words". I simple want to share valuable information for our community.
The players:
mandle/honiker is a user that captured Q&A format
Sickscent is the anonymous resource.
*** His answers are in "Black Bold" and might speak volumes about the truth.
Watch this 42 min video first...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTnwjd8CF1c&feature=player_embedded
The FLUFFY MAGNETIC RIBBON NEMESIS of the ELECTRIC UNIVERSE
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Sickscent says: We live in the physical universe of polarity. The basis of physicality is the constant oscillation of duality, where balance is perfection. But balance is a paradox because the only place for perfect balance to exist is singularity points reciding at the moment that the oscillation changes direction.
Here's a summary of OP's comments (in bold) from
I took Sickscent's and added the rest of OP's statements, except for the part about the AC id from his iphone. I also deleted the redundancies from people's quotes:
HERE IS THE OPs RESPONSES TO QUESTIONS SO PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE THREAD!!!!
I work for a NASA contractor and handle the video conferencing sessions between JSC and other facilities. Everybody always wants to see a link. Well, everything talked about in these vc's is top secret - so there's obviously not a link. I love my family and need my job so I'm not gonna tell you much that would endanger those either. I work for Boeing. All I can tell you is there is a LOT of interesting **** happening. The moon is NOT crashing - but it doesn't need to. There is a reason so many are sending birds up to watch the Sun - and it's not cause we just would like to know more about the Sun.
We'll start here and I'll respond how and when I can.
So is everything going to start coming apart at the seems now? And, are you referring to natural disasters, or imminent contact?
Sorry for the delay - had a meeting.
Natural occurances.
How many would you say are 'in the know'?
How is it you are able to keep it quiet?
This isn't about a "2012" senario. I haven't heard anybody acknowledge that timeline. It's easy to keep quiet, most people think NASA is hiding something anyway. In the know- It's hard to tell because how how many conferences take place between us, ESA, and others. Not every piece of the picture is being discussed at every conference either. Just what affects that agency or department.
seriously. why dont you just tell us WTF is going on with the sun already. Is it going to **** on us with a CME?? Are Aliens using it as a vehicle to enter our universe and come thru??? Is it burning out? are we going to freeze to death? WTF OP JUST SAY IT
Aliens, per se, have not been involved. The Sun IS involved.
invisible threads shall we say connected from the earth to the sun!
Like the kind of invisible threads that show up in digital pictures between earth and other planets?
Those are an artifact of how the data is being converted not threads.
Does NASA think the sun is going to become extremely active, more than usual? Are they afraid of damaging CME's?
Thanks in advance.
NASA has already acknowledged this. They came out late last year and revised downward what they had previously acknowledged. It isn't 'actually' turning out that way.
Does it have to do with Mars?
My group has only handled conferences regarding 'near earth' projects and interest. I haven't been privy to any info about Mars. But I haven't heard anything in the 'halls' like gets posted on here all the time - either.
i am sure it is about the solar pulse thing that would take out the techno grid.
The grid is a big concern.
It's obviously not about the end of the world in 2012 at least. Otherwise your job would be your last concern.
Nobody I have been involved with believes 'officially' the 2012 timeline.
Its not just the sun exhibiting different "behavior" several planets in our solar system now have significant magnetic fields that were practically non-existent before, and I think there are gravitational perturbations being measured that again were previously non-existent.
Like I said, many of you are very close to being right.
something to do with energy coming from the center of the galaxy.
sun will react to it in a paranormal way.
The Sun is already reacting to 'forces' we can't see.
super nova? so what happened in the 2012 movie could occur but not on that timeline?
Haven't heard it put in terms of a super nova. A lot can happen that would (is) bad which would be far from a super nova.
The Sun in turning to a Brown Dwarf !
No
Look, everybody assumes NASA has all the answers and that there are things they know for sure which aren't being disclosed. The problem is, most of what is being discussed is NOT set in stone and NASA, nor ESA or the others know for certain either what will happen - in some instances - and even less when.
Thing moving through space can hit each other. When they do, it's hard to know what will happen because those spin offs can hit other 'things' we may not see yet - or - may think we see but aren't sure of the mass or composition.
How many jobs have you got OP?
Why don't you just quit with this bullshit.
You're referring to my post from yesterday. Boeing has many contracts, military and civilian. As a VC tech, I am in on many subjects and our involvement in that vessel is one of them.
[link to science.nasa.gov]
So, this 'ribbon' of magnetism we are heading into, could it be the 'Wave' that has been mentioned before. The Wave is supposed to be an area of increased energy that the solar system is supposed to fly through. BUT, what if the actual Wave isn't increased 'energy', but this magnetism, and as our heliosphere and the various gravity fields of our system interact with the 'ribbon of magnetism' (NASA), it causes unkown energy exchanges that can be very dynamic.
Am I close OP?
Like I said, NASA isn't sure of everything it believes may be happening. Something is happening and many who have the ability to send birds up to look are also trying to figure out just what "is" real.
OP is not all that serious about the top secret stuff, they are just making observations, stuff is going on and nothing is certain, its all energy anyway. i am worried aout the eq's they may not be over,
We have been talking about EQ's because some of our US facilities are in areas which have the possibility of serious involvement. NASA and others do not yet understand the current trend in EQ's.
And, what do you mean 'figure out what "is" real? Do you mean what effects could be possible? Or is there something that they have recieved data on, but it doesn't quite make sense? So they are sending that new satellite up there to get 'better' measurements...
"real" We have to give a reason which things show up on certain data that gets out on the net.
Why are you proposing to tell us all this? If you really have TSC, aren't you endangering yourself talking about it?
Not if I don't state anything as fact that isn't public knowledge - even if the public doesn't realize that it's out there.
Actually, NASA like most govt agencies, leaks like a noodle strainer. There is VERY LITTLE which is actually an unknown secret... but the info gets put out in such small pieces and from such a wide array of sources - that's it's nearly impossible for someone to put all the pieces together and then state it as fact. Like I said, NSAS and others often - especially now - aren't sure what 'fact is.
As long as something is in what is termed "the public domain" - while it may be discussed in the realms of a TS subject oveall - doesn't make that piece of info - on it's own - secret.
I can't put the pieces together like I have heard them put together. That would be a violation.
I can say that while I am putting together some provision for my family... I'm not trying to survive an ELE.
this?
[link to www.newscientist.com]
This is something very important which we don't understand.
Is whatever happening going to impact the whole globe or only certain locations? Whatever happens weather earthquake, meteor
CME or whatever it is I don't care, I'm 36 yr old and I have been ready now for whatever happens. I am not afraid to die , but I would like to know because I have children that are not ready and are afraid of what might happen.
Potentially, the whole globe. But it depends on the time of day as to how badly certain areas might be affected. Don't worry your children with this stuff and I would discourage them from watching 2012 and other programs on TV these days. Maybe good info, but bad cause there isn't a darn thing we can do about it... not 2012 timeline, but some of what is being proposed about that timeline.
Have another meeting folks and then I'm outta here for the weekend. Will try to check in later tonight maybe.
Can you give us a list of what you are not trying to survive?
I am NOT trying to survive a moon crash - that one was funny. Not even an asteroid, becuase to many variables. I am learning how to adjust to a lack of electrons in house wiring for some time.
I've got a good question.
Is NASA concerned about a near certain event? Or are they more worried because some of these 'secrets' look like they are going to be exposed and their is nothing they can do about it?
Some of both but not why you might think. Everyone at NASA has a family somewhere. They're not a bunch of govt bought robots - they have feelings. They fear what can happen. But they have to pay their bills like all of us. They have to keep money coming into the budget. Many WANT to keep money coming hoping that they can figure out what is fact - and THEN they would LIKE to open up about it..... that's what I hear in the halls - NOT in official conferences. But - it is a very vicious circle folks.
EMP?
Electro MAgnetic Pulse - that's a big concern and now I really have to go.
Bye
Could you point out a specific breadcrumb?
We're delayed until 1530.
This:
[link to science.nasa.gov]
Wow - Nice find.
There's a thread pinned on here right now about permafrost melting. That's public knowledge. Why it's melting when the temps are below freezing is not understood.
Holy crap, 11 year cycle = end of 2012, beginning of 2013
Dude, you're saying that this large solar maximum is going to have an unknown interaction with recent gamma rays in our system.
That is it. I win a prize.
Forget the dates! The event is what is important. The question was could I point to something, assumingly being discussed, which was already in the public.
Putting what you said about not expecting an ELE, is it safe to assume that damage to the Earth in general will not be so great as most of the damage will be to we humans specifically and our infrastructure?
There can be a LOT of damage without an event which, of itself, would take out the planet. There is a domino effect to be remembered.
I know what the OP is talking about, it has nothing to do with an "event" from the sun as we know it, like a flare or pulse or anything like that. It has to do with a "timeline"
In short, part of what I know is this, certain features that our sun has displayed is at question. During the monitoring of our sun features in a specific way has manifested in observable events that have taken place many years ago and events that have yet to be.
The process of observing our sun in this specialized way can also be used to monitor other celestial events that have already occurred and those that have yet to occur.
Our sun is fine, however it is the culmination of the results from these observations that are at question.
The question is not one of what but of when.
N4
And i wouldn't put that much time into 'when'
Being called back for 1430
bye
Q. Will we wake up one day and the Ele systems will be smoking, toast?
Q. Will it happen over time, system down here and there
over days, weeks?
Gotta love it - our tax dollars at work - a meeting to set up a meeting.
Again, this is out there. Days. There is a 'domino' effect because of how our electrical grid is designed. It has safeguards which actually take it down - in segments - automatically in order to keep from frying things... but the components of what those automatic systems are supposed to protect are not protected from EMP and/or huge static loads to ground. I'm not an EE so not sure what that means. So when the system trys to protect itself - it can cascade - quickly. But if certain parts of the system get damaged - again this is out there - then it can take years to replace them. Problem is, the companies who make this stuff don't have enough raw materials on hand - right now - to make them all. Some of them don't even have back up power sources.... they are 'commerical' suppliers ! Think about it. Really think about it.
OP,
Thanks for this thread. Can you be a bit more specific about the types of preparations that you are making for your family? How long are you planning food and water? What types of backup power sources are you considering? Is radiation in any form of concern?
Thanks!
you're welcome. I've actually said about as much as I can. For us, we are fortunate to have a small place between Houston and Dallas with a few acres. We have a well - hand well and wind mill. I have tools and can work with my hands. I have a few solar panels just to charge some batteries for small conveniences like small led lights at night. Forget much more than that. We have seeds for only a few basic veggies. Think about living in the late 1800's for a while and you'll be on my line of thinking. Is it enough or will it work - I don't know. How soon may it be needed? I don't know and I think anybody who says they do know is pulling our legs - UNTIL about 30-40 hours before it happens. Will an announcement be made? I don't know but I don't think so - too many variables and too much communication to be done with critical agencies to at least TRY to save some stuff. How fast am I working on this? I have been for a year and am nearly finished with what I have 'planned' to try to get together.
Hope this has been helpful.
Could be this has something to do with the obsession with oil supplies from the middle east and who will have long term power source the most.
I haven't heard anything like this but NASA is only involved with data acquisition and orbiting infrastructure.
OP as I understand it two things are occurring. First, something external is affecting our solar system, potentially starting up the sun's solar capacitor and secondly the sun is entering a solar cycle maximum, part of its natural cycle. These two factors could cause EMP type effects, especially when you consider that the earth's magnetosphere has been exhibiting "holes" or breaches in the shield.
A lot of this has been summarized by several scientists and researchers, some from the University of Colorado. That is publicly available information, however the first factor of an external influence affecting our solar system is not. But when you look at circumstantial evidence, like a ban on information on asteroids and objects entering earth's atmosphere and .gov agencies re-locating offices to higher elevations (CIA moving branches to Denver Colorado) one can get an overall "picture".
Have you seen any mitigation efforts by .gov agencies regarding older satellites that may be affecting by large solar radiation storms?
There IS public speculation out there about something which has a timeline and affects our solar system. But - NASA has not confirmed that they see it. Did I say that right ??? They also don't really know how it 'could' affect our system cause things 'could' happen which would change 'its' timeline - if it exists.
Old birds aren't saveable. Even shutting them down won't help.
The ban on near earth objects caught many by surprise... many.
I don't know anything about the CIA... and I don't want to either.
Look, everybody assumes NASA has all the answers and that there are things they know for sure which aren't being disclosed. The problem is, most of what is being discussed is NOT set in stone and NASA, nor ESA or the others know for certain either what will happen - in some instances - and even less when.
Thing moving through space can hit each other. When they do, it's hard to know what will happen because those spin offs can hit other 'things' we may not see yet - or - may think we see but aren't sure of the mass or composition.
Are you referring to P/2010 A2 ????
Like i said.
Is the anomaly affecting the space station?
This or maybe something like it:
[link to www.canberratimes.com.au]
Will admit I've not read all pages, but the first word that popped into my wee brain was GRBs ~
Gamma Ray Bursts. EMP
and THEN they would LIKE to open up about it-quote.
hey come on?
what have you been smoking?
There isn't as much conspiracy at NASA - about this stuff anyway - as everyone seems to want. There IS a total **** load of it when it comes to getting money funding.
So OP it's kinda like a cue ball break. You never know where the balls are gonna go as they all hit each other and the variables are too infinite. Correct?
IF - the balls turn out to be ones we aren't tracking. Nuf said about that one.
I wish that is all you would say.
"I work for ______ and you are all screwed." How many times has this been posted?
I work for Boeing. I don't know yet if we are all screwed and NASA doesn't either. Guess I've brought all I can bring to you on this one. There is a LOT on here lately about the Sun. I just wanted to help sift through some of the other BS by saying - rightly so!
I can say this, you'd be amazed how many people at NASA know about GLP and pop over here from time to time. I've been watching this site for only a few weeks cause a friend told me about it one day.
Will be seeing you on here.
Here she is:
[link to apod.nasa.gov]
How could that interact with a salar flare event?
Think of the distance this photo comes from. All that stuff behind the artifact isn't necessarily 'dust'
This isn't about something hitting earth, it's about the potential of something hitting the sun and what affect that might have on the GRB that will already be high from the solar maximum?
Right - it's not about something hitting the Earth.
OP, you said that you wouldn't put much time onto this, meaning that whatever this is about, it is not supposed to take a long time to happen. But what are we talking about here? Months? A few years?
Look - I don't know. Not years. Again, this is out there - look at how long the Sun was quiet passed when everyone thought it would be quiet. Like I said, NASA doesn't always know what it thinks it knows. Look at the 'very public' amount of data being made available by SOHO and other systems which are still up every day on the net. That stuff would not be available if NASA really didn't want the public to have 'the ability to know' what is occuring. It's obvious that something is occuring - and more frequently. That's public info - not necessarily knowledge - but it's info that is there for the seeing and reading.
All I can say.
OP. When you are in on these conference calls, would you say the people are nervous or sounding urgent.
Excellent question.
Recently - urgent. But remember these are scientists and in peer level meetings, especially when cross national, they tend to be more reserved - not always but they try to be.
Thanks OP. Would you say they are high ranking NASA officials?
Did you notice any other agencies involved?
Department heads yes but not the 'officials' you would see on TV. Those meetings are above me and closed to all but a few. We set up the link and monitor remotely but only for data transfer.
OP, are you going to be able to answer more questions?
For now, I think I have said all I can say and have done what I set out to do which is point you in a direction which is really the thing to monitor closely space related. Lord knows there is plenty more which bears watching in the international world. I'm looking for bits and pieces and a heads up about Israel and Iran as hard as I am trying to keep a close watch on my own info right now.
OP has it anything to do with the ripples on the sun or the filaments that keep popping up?
YES !
Perhaps this is why OP states that what they are viewing they are not sure if it is 'real' or not. They are viewing a black dwarf (cold dwarf) that messes up all their theories.
And the cold dwarf is interacting with the sun. I bet if we look at the filaments and where they started on the sun, we could triangulate to the vicinity in space where the cold dwarf' is. It is pulling the magnetics out from the sun, creating the filaments. That might be why we are seeing so many filaments at this time also... also, the biggest filament ever seen by a gigantic magnitude.
Am I close OP?
Yes. There doesn't have to be anything that close to cause the internal reactions needed to form a filament. That's what I hear. But something is.... like has been said on here many times.
This is the key.
I cannot say who I am but you need to put two things together. An excitable sun + this.
Voyager Makes an Interstellar Discovery
December 23, 2009: The solar system is passing through an interstellar cloud that physics says should not exist.
My forte is Plasma Deposition.
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The Interstellar cloud we are entering (as a solar system) changes a simple model CME discharge event into a more continuous process. The CME will act as a trigger or switch.
The Intertellar (magnetic cloud) can support a continuous ion flow between "connected" bodies, this phenomena would be orders of magnitude beyond a simple CME discharge.
The magnetic flow (cloud) will make the 'ether' much more conductive, so energy will be flowing like crazy, instead of just merely on the normal currents it flows through now. So it makes the EMP effect, not only massive, but pretty much all consuming. And, due to the solar system being submerged in this magnetic could, it will make the EMPs somewhat continuous. It will be a sustained process as opposed to a CME event.
OP, is the above correct? Is the interstellar magnetic cloud that our solar system is now encountering a relevant part of this puzzle? Does NASA think that cloud will make the sunstorms' effects more severe?
This is likely going to be my last post. I had a long talk with my wife and family this weekend. For reasons I cannot explain well enough to suit the proof requirements of many here - I have decided that we will be making our move out to our property in June of this year. I will be quiting my job at Boeing - not just leaving without a trace because that would cause folks to want to find out where I had gone.
This post - is the closest to what I was trying to point to about the solar maximum PLUS other objects which NASA knows will affect our solar system of, at least, have a **** good chance of doing so. However, since this mass of objects and particles is so out there in distance and spread out so far - there is simply no way to know how much or when they will either affect the Sun - or our planet directly. No way to know. Because of that - no warnings other than articles like this one which point right to a known - potential - serions - problem.
The conferences I hear are between scientists of various fields working at what in 'secret level topics' would be the kindergarden level. That's all I have clearance to hear. If the topic or conversation goes above that - my audio link gets blanked out. Many meetings about this subject we can't hear from the beginning - we just set up the linki and monitor on scopes for stability. There are at least 12 levels of clearance above mine - and that's only the ones I know of.
So, long story short, I took some time this weekend and we made a decision. I may be early - by a few months or so... but i don't think so. Posting this thread helped me convince myself that acting was better than reacting. There just won't be enough time when it happens. There isn't a clock on this either but I want to be at our place by end of June.... that's my gut feeling. If I' wrong, then we spend our savings and start over in a few years - no real biggie in light of the difference if I'm right. And I believe I'm right to move by June.
Past that, I don't know what to say folks. Everyone has to take my post and others and form their own decision. From here out, you'll likely only see me post from my iPhone. I know when I turn in my notice they will release me immediately - that's the norm in secruity sensitive areas.
I will turn in my notice This coming Friday. That will give us time to do lots of things needed before we make the move.
God bless you all - no matter what you think. Trust your instinct - it has always served me well.
OP, thanks for posting. If you ever feel like coming back to see what us conspiacy theorists are up to, please do. If you ever decide to get more information out there, please come back.
You have started one of THE most interesting threads ever on GLP. Its been fun!
Good luck, and light be with you.
I will go so far as to saqy I have not heard any concern or comments about any immediate threat - or perceived threat - from comets. Also, at my level, I don't get the impression of any intended cover up. They are looking at the Sun all day long and not one mention about any orbs or anything at all in that regard.... but I suppose that could be in meetings above me or moderated by a different VC group. I don't think there is anything there but screwed up data.
Thanks for your follow up but ....
If you want to be at the "safe area" by late June
why are you going to resign this FRIDAY?
You said you already had everything put together for
Bugging OUT so --you don't need to prepare Hhmmmm
why would you stop working now ?????
Your info has brought a lot of attention to stuff we
all needed to analyze and correlate --for that I thank you
but I can't help but think --your "story" is fake but and you wanted to start up some kind of long thinking --
discussing thread ! Success accomplish. You might
have done more good then you think --even if it was a game.
But isn't life a game and a stage....It was nice Knwoing u.
wanted to start up
Okay - i have to reply to this one. I have a house I plan to sell. I never said I was totally prepared - but that we were preparing as we could. I have other things I want to sell. Will money be helpful, hell I don't know. I'm not going to just walk off and leave everything I have in Houston. So I hope enough said about that.
o make long story short, the OP "PROMISED" us that he would let us know when TSHTF.
And he also promised that he would somehow find this thread no matter what happens and leave us the sign.
I believe what the OP said.
May the force be with the OP 888341.
Folks - this is it. When I made that statement I had not made this decision. I have decided to move - for the reasons we all fear. I will still try to get on but I will no longer be at Boeing and no longer involved in real time data. This decision IS the only warning I know how to give !!!!
The anomaly is confirmed. The object is artificial. Now we have confirmation...What is it??
StarViewerTeam Internacional 2010. StarViewerTeam International 2010.
I.-Summary.
Between 10:05:39 pm on March 19 and 11:42 pm, an anomaly is detected in LASCO C3 (One of the nodes Telescope SOHO).. The anomaly can be seen in the trace of an object, whose trajectory can be determined with the help of the Hubble STEREO Behind COR Node 1. For latrayectoria, displacement and object positions, we can determine that its size is similar to the size of Earth, and its speed, trajectory and relative positions are incompatible with any natural object. The object has been photographed from several different geographical locations, New Zealand, USA, Australia. AEO1 Bright Objects near the Sun. Bright Objects AEO1 near the Sun. AEO2 Starlike Objects with Anomalous Motions.AEX1 Objects Crossing the Face of the Sun. Objects with AEO2 Starlike Anomalous Objects Motions.AEX1 Crossing the Face of the Sun.
further reading translated...
http://translate.google.com/translat...rzo-de-2010%2F
original article...
http://starviewer.wordpress.com/2010...marzo-de-2010/
NASA Images Earth Sized Spherical Objects Inside Corona of SUN
BINGO!!!!!
What you are seeing here is a "SOLID OBJECT" It's not compression artifacts, pixels or dust, who says so? NASA! on their official web site read on below
Important Update, a new video from Sandi and some new pictures
Below is the official NASA website Astronomy Picture of the Day, on the picture below you can see spheres passing by the Sun, the sphere is Mercury and it has an uncanny resemblance to the spheres Mr. Joseph Gurman of NASA dismissed as "Compression artifacts, highly magnified". It would suggest all the photo's below are images of solid objects and not, Compression artifacts, pixels or dust!
Astronomy Picture of the Day
Discover the cosmos! Each day a different image or photograph of our fascinating universe is featured, along with a brief explanation written by a professional astronomer.
2004 June 6
Click on image to enlarge
Mercury Spotting
Credit: SOHO - EIT Consortium, ESA, NASA
Explanation: Can you spot the planet? The diminutive disk of Mercury, the solar system's innermost planet, spent about five hours crossing in front of the enormous solar disk on 2003 May 7, as viewed from the general vicinity of planet Earth. The Sun was above the horizon during the entire transit for observers in Europe, Africa, Asia, or Australia, and the horizon was certainly no problem for the sun-staring SOHO spacecraft. Seen as a dark spot, Mercury progresses from left to right (top panel to bottom) in these four images from SOHO's extreme ultraviolet camera. The panels' false-colors correspond to different wavelengths in the extreme ultraviolet which highlight regions above the Sun's visible surface. This was the first of 14 transits of Mercury which will occur during the 21st century, but the next similar event will be a much more rare transit of Venus this coming Tuesday. Need help spotting Mercury? Just click on the picture.
Astronomy Picture of the day
Who are NASA trying to kid? Here are two NASA SOHO images of the Sun taken yesterday, one at 23:24 and one at 23:44, did the sun suddenly flip over?
http://gazbom.blogspot.com/2010/01/nasa ... rical.html
mother shipton :D :D :D
A fiery Dragon will cross the sky
Six times before this earth shall die
Mankind will tremble and frightened be
For the sixth heralds in this prophecy.
For those who live the century through
In fear and trembling this shall do.
Flee to the mountains and the dens
The bog and forest and wild fens.
For storms shall rage and oceans roar
When Gabriel stands on sea and shore
And as he blows his wondrous horn
Old worlds die and new be born.
There’ll be a sign for all to see
Be sure that it will certain be.
Then love shall die and marriage cease
And nations wane as babes decrease.
And wives shall fondle cats and dogs
And men live much the same as hogs.
Yet greater signs there be to see
As man nears latter century
Three sleeping mountains gather breath
And spew out mud, and ice and death.
And earthquakes swallow town and town
In lands as yet to me unknown
Not every soul on Earth will die
As the Dragon’s tail goes sweeping by.
Not every land on Earth will sink
But these will wallow in stench and stink
Of rotting bodies of beast and man
Of vegetation crisped on land.
But the land that rises from the sea
Will be dry and clean and soft and free
Of mankind’s dirt and therefore be
The source of man’s new dynasty.
And those that live will ever fear
The Dragon’s tail for many year
But time erases memory
You think it strange. But it will be
And when the Dragon’s tail is gone
Man forgets, and smiles, and carries on
To apply himself-to late, to late
For mankind has earned deserved fate.
His masked smile, his fate grandeur
Will serve the Gods their anger stir.
And they will send the Dragon back
To light the sky—his tail will crack
Upon the Earth and rend the Earth
And man shall flee, King, Lord and serf.
For seven days and seven nights
Man will watch this awesome sight.
The tides will rise beyond their ken
To bite away the shores, and then
The mountains will begin to roar
And earthquakes split the plain and shore.
And flooding waters, rushing in
Will flood the lands with such a din
That mankind cowers in muddy fen
And snarls about his fellow men.
Man flees in terror from the floods
And kills, and rapes and lies in blood
And spilling blood by mankind’s hands
Will stain and bitter many lands
He bares his teeth and fights and kills
And secrets food in secret hills
And ugly in his fear, he lies
To kill marauders, thieves and spies
But slowly they are routed out
To seek diminishing water spout
And men will die of thirst before
The oceans rise to mount the shore.
And lands will crack and rend anew
You think it strange. It will come true.
And in some far-off distant land,
Some men-oh such a tiny band.
Will have to leave their solid mount,
And span the earth, those few to count.
Who survives this and then
Begin the human race again.
But not on land already there
But on ocean beds, stark, dry and bare.
And before the race is built anew
A silver serpent comes to view
And spew out men of like unknown
To mingle with the earth now grown
Cold from its heat, and these men can
Enlighten the minds of future man
To intermingle and show them how
To live and love and thus endow
The children with the second sight.
A natural thing so that they might
Grow graceful, humble, and when they do
The Golden Age will start anew.
The Dragon’s tail is but a sign,
For mankind’s fall and man’s decline.
And before this prophecy is done,
I shall be burned at the stake, at one,
My body singed and my soul set free.
You think I utter blasphemy, You’re wrong.
These things have come to me,
The prophecy will come to be.
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